I have more of a problem with it being called âdramaâ. Itâs just an expression of opinion. Nothing dramatic about it.
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I wouldnât even give it that much weight. 
To me itâs merely a link (pretending to
be a question).
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Is it time for Samuel âOttoâ Wood to leave WordPress?
People get really emotionally invested in this stuff!
I am aware that I donât have a clear way to define this, but I think this sensationalist headline crosses the line into âdramaâ.
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Hm. This:
doesnât look like a goot start point for a meaningful discussion 
Itâs a typical forced drama based on offencive emotional position.
P.S. This is not about WP/CP etc. Discussing individuals in that way is quite far from âfriendly communityâ concept. This discredits any topic, no matter if it mentions WP or not.
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I donât disagree with you there, @norske. But I still have no idea why you or anyone else would want to dignify such comments with the label âdramaâ. That seems to me to be a gross over-reaction.
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Ah, Itâs just a kinda slang term. I use it in ironic sense. Meaning that something pretends to be an epic event but is insignificant by its nature. âDramaâ is often forced and has arteficial roots (lack of attention, trolling, manipulating public opinion etc).
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Exactly. As used in âdrama queenâ.
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Great discussion! I do want to clarify something however. The reason I closed the previous thread was because of an early consensus that it didnât belong here. I did not want to outright delete it, because it did have some merits. I made a linked topic because I thought there was an interesting discussion to be had on the subject of what to do with these type of posts as a whole, but I did not think we should do that on the post itself.
The reopening was done after internal discussion and was not at all a disagreement between moderators. Sorry if that was unclear. I closed the thread, after which a discussion was held on how to proceed, after which it was decided that we should reopen the thread. Every decision was based on âwhat is the best thing to do at this pointâ.
The ClassicPress community values all opinions, and I never want to shut down a discussion. I do not close a thread willy-nilly, I hope everyone can understand my reasoning in closing and our reasoning in reopening.
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Thatâs perfectly understandable @klein. My first reaction was to flag it for possible deletion, because I thought it had no place here at all. It just had zero to do with ClassicPress.
I didnât do that because, as explained above, I donât feel we yet have any code in place to use as a guideline for moderation. It would have just been a judgment call on my part, and I would prefer to have some solid basis for that sort of action.
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Couldnât agree more with everything you said.
I posted above a link to another forum I use that has clearly defined rules for thread deletion. I happen to think they work well.
Based on those rules, I can find three separate reasons that thread should be removed.
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Yes, I have read it. Itâs strongly worded, true. But hardly dramatic. Just because heâs got himself worked up doesnât mean everyone else has to be. This isnât Twitter.
So, if itâs insignificant, why the fuss?
I believe there are things and situations that require some visible reaction. Because otherwise it might be interpreted in unwanted way. âSilent approvalâ etc. So I try to demonstrate my attitude sometimes just to set bounds or to make position clear. Thist doesnât mean that current situation is critical or I take it close to heart.
P.S. I really like your calm and reasonable position. It is healthy. And I think the same way in general, but considering all above. Donât know if it looks like fuss from your point â maybe Itâs ok.
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I think we are missing something.
Just put the situation in another context: you are at your home giving a party. Suddenly one of the guests starts telling everybody about the nasty behaviour of an absent person and not only that, he goes in detail by shaming, name-calling and breaking his privacy.
Just for the sake of venting. Just to solicit people to agree with him that so-and-so is so nasty.
Now, itâs not important if so-and-so really is nasty, I think the host has no right to justify such behaviour. The name-calling isnât justified by nothing. One person doesnât automatically gain the right to backbite âbecause he thinks this person is badâ!
If I were the host, I would calm people and remind that guest of his right to a respectful opinion. And remind everybody that IN MY HOME anything like backbiting, offending and the like is considered childish behaviour and not condoned. And then I as an host I would bring the convo from there to something constructive like âwhat can I do to avoid the things you consider nasty?â. Obviously this process (as I mentioned before) has to be managed in a way the bad-mouthed guest feels listened and engaged, for we respect everyone. But a certain level of what we allow and what not may be needed as we grow.
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And what if he then starts denigrating women? Then moves on to black people? Then starts telling us how great the Nazis were?
Surely Elisabetta, there must be some point where you would ask him to leave?
Thatâs what guidelines are for.
Point is, yes. I would throw him out at the second attempt of such behaviour, but BEFORE THIS I will make rules known so that when I throw him out I can say âyour behaviour breaches my rules in my home, so I am throwing you out!â And nobody is then endorsed to question that. What I am trying to understand is why I feel people âfearâ the necessity of rules and moreover why people want to avoid such restrictive measures IF APPLIED ONLY WHEN REALLY NEEDED. I know deciding when to enforce them means trusting mods. I know having such rules may give a mod the bad idea to use them for personal use.
But that way we as a community are saying âwe donât trust in our ability to build an healthy culture around rules nor we trust our ability to enforce equitable rules to ensure the interests of the community are secured, and lastly we donât trust us to be able to educate our modsâ.
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Well, Iâm glad you have some limits to your niceness. 
I suspect I am a far less tolerant person than you. 
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I am closing this thread, as I feel the other thread is more inline with determining best course of actions going forward and right now we are getting comments in both places
Refer to this thread to continue this discussion: Retrospective for yesterday's post
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