So it sounds like PHP 8 compatibilityis probably top priority in terms of technical desires. Should it be higher priority than fixing and/or testing PHPMailer?
As far as i know it was mentioned that work on PHP mailer is already advanced during the core meeting.
I might have misunderstood but they were talking about scheduling it for release?
And it was reported that some of the work on PHP 8 is in progress, but I think they could use help since it is a very huge endeavour.
I think about PHP mailer it is important to release a fix because it is what broke the 1.4 release, so itâs natural that after the revert that was made to correct the issue we release it when ready IMHO.
I think, overall, we need better information on the main website about getting started.
One other thing I want to mention is fixing donation button. I remember being reported that there were issues with it month ago and I donât know if it was fixed.
Since Classic Commerce isnât actively maintained right now, I think it might be right to move donations somewhere else. I will look into using Stripe checkout and other Stripe options to make donations easier. Fundraising will be #1 goal for me, so the process needs to be easy and functional.
PHPMailer is updated to version 6.6.3 in develop
and it now uses a similar fix that used to be used in Wordpress but that they decided to drop - this will maintain backwards compatibility - and there is a unit test to ensure the edit remains in place.
On fundraising, I may well have missed earlier discussion, but have you considered joining Open Collective? I support a couple of other open source projects there and one benefit it is that they will themselves highlight interesting projects, which could bring CP to the attention of potential users. I would certainly be happy to support through Open Collective.
Thanks, @JeremyCherfas for reminding us of Open Collective. When CP was forked, in the early days, it did have an Open Collective account. It was closed after a while. We will look into the possibility of opening it again. I will let you know once I have an update.
Thanks again for the Open Collective suggestion, @JeremyCherfas. We have created a collective and plan to switch all donations to Open Collective. Weâre still adding information, but itâs fully functional. So you can support CP and donate: ClassicPress - Open Collective
Weâll make an official announcement once we set everything up.
Declined both my Visa and Mastercard.
Edit: Fixed
I logged in today to delete my account and found a notification for this post. Thereâs a few points Iâd like to clear up.
For me, that ship has sailed. Iâve moved back to WordPress and the idea of giving CP a third chance isâŚwell⌠just not on the table. I wonât involve in another software project that attempts a democratic model for reasons Iâll state at the end of this post.
Stalling was the least of ClassicPressâ issuesâŚand may have been more a symptom than a main cause. More of an issue was the human resources management. There was a tendency to not discuss/address HUGE (human resources) issues â such as removing Charles and James in a timely manner after it had become obvious they were a problem. Too, for whatever reason, certain toxic personalities have made CP their home. One can log on here almost any day and find a negative, toxic comment within a few minutes. The majority of the community is positive and helpful, but, a the toxics remain a fly in the ointment.
It wasnât just the Directors. There were a lot more donations in the early days â I donated more than $3,000 to the project.
Iâve reported many posts over my time here⌠Nothing was ever done about any of it and it became apparent that reporting wasnât worth the time. There were also a handful of times (when I was a moderator) where Iâd make a forum decision and James would undo it, unable to stay in his own lane, which just led me to quit the position due to simple attrition.
Democracy was a neat ideaâŚbut what ended up happening is that, because everyoneâs opinion had to be fielded, nobodyâs ideas got acted on. A lot of time was always spent on pointless discussion. Remember the mile-long post where the guy wanted external links to open in a new tab and the entire thread was spent informing them again and again and again that is was not done this was for a viable reason â they still never accepted it and everyoneâs time was wasted. I daresay that member probably isnât even around anymore. My point is: all opinions on all topics are not equal and giving them equal airtime, opportunity, and legitimacy was a mistake.
This is a good example of what I referenced above â having to repeat the same thing because the other person doesnât accept or understand it.
Anyway, while the ClassicPress project is no longer âfor meâ I do wish you all well in the endeavor.
Thanks for sharing. Itâs valuable feedback that, hopefully, wonât fall on deaf ears.