Slack, Forum, Petition or Github

From the list above, please keep the following channels open:

#core, design, #docs, #migration

I think the effect of closing the public #committee and marketing channels is going to be to push more conversations into the private channels. There, I’d prefer we close the private channels instead, or leave it as-is.

Don’t you think it would, instead, focus discussion specific topics? So then each of us would know whether we need to read that topic. At the moment, I have to read everything on every channel to be sure I haven’t missed something significant. That’s a terribly inefficient means of communicating.

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I don’t think so. I think it’s more likely that we just don’t have those discussions, or end up pushing them to direct messages and existing private channels because that’s a lower-friction way of interacting.

I’d also like us to get to a place where we can all be comfortable ignoring Slack, because we know that anything important has been summarized elsewhere. But we can’t get there immediately, we have to work up to that.

It seems like the community and marketing teams are leading the push here. I think we should wait and see how that goes, including the people who routinely participate in those discussions and are not part of the committee, before forcing a decision for everyone.

This thread by itself is a perfect example of why forum threads will work - I started this topic before going to sleep and I’ve just woken up.

I caught up in 60 seconds and can continue the conversation without having to dig through unrelated conversations.

Slack is linear and not suited to topics that need to be discussed over a period of time, especially when those involved are in different timezones.

I’m happy for marketing to be the guinea pig, but I’d like to suggest an interim step - I setup something Zapier to send notifications to the relevant Slack channel when new topics are created in the forum.

Edit: Another thing the forum does is make things public without needing to sign up for anything, meaning Joe Public can get a sense of what’s happening with very little friction.

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And, yes, it is a relief here to be able to press Enter without posting!

You can do that on Slack too, it is a mere setting

I agree with the forum approach overall.

Though I do like the desktop app for slack.

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Thanks for this, @pieter. I never even thought to look to change that!

Indeed, without the desktop app, I would really struggle with Slack.

I agree… also wondering if those kinds of topics/conversations couldn’t (somehow) be “ported” to appear in all places? Like, someone posts a topic in SLACK, it automatically posts (also) in the forum… I’m not even sure if that’s “do-able”… just a thought!

I really LIKE that approach… I think the key here is to have ONE place (the FORUM is my preference) where folks (both INside and OUTside) can catch up quickly

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I expect that core contributors to the project will continue to use Slack for real-time interaction related to getting things done. And just chatting, which is always nice, and doesn’t really work so well here.

I am happy to use the forum, and I’m happy for all of us to do a better job of summarizing important conversations in a more permanent place (forums, GitHub, or petitions as appropriate). However I want to emphasize again that the forum is a complement to Slack, not a replacement.

Thanks for setting up the notifications to Slack channels, that is a good intermediate step here.

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BTW: I’ve closed the following inactive Slack channels after a majority of the committee voted in favor of this action.

#features, #fundraising, #git, #legal, #oauth, #plugins, #themes

#support is the obvious next channel to close, but there are a lot of places in our website, documentation, and core code that still point here. Anywhere else that anyone’s aware of?

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I know its been mentioned before, but Rocketchat gets us away from the Slack message limit

I generally support the forum idea. But, and I don’t know a good solution to this, I worry about the wall of text effect. Every persistent communication medium I have ever used eventually has this problem. Any given topic or post, after enough discussions, becomes so long as to become impossible to track what was decided XX days ago. This of course hods true for Slack as well.

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Could there be a “flag” added to show current status, perhaps? Then, no matter where you are in the thread, you could click on “current status” flag to see what the latest decision is… just a thought!

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I am 100% open to use something like Rocketchat. I think once we have the beta out we can have a serious look at something like and see if it matches our needs :slight_smile:

We can enable tagging of topics.

See this topic as an example. Not really sure it helps though!

I am still a complete Newb to ClassicPress and just trying to get oriented as of today, but I agree with that sentiment. As much as I like Slack for some things, I also (honestly prefer) old school forums where you can go back and re-read what someone said or copy and paste or something and there is one single source of information. Of course, I’m an older guy…so that probably has something to do with that sentiment but I think organization is key in most digital marketing efforts.

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