Hi,
I’m wondering how many CP sites there are at the moment?
And how many of them are v1 vs v2?
There’s info on several usage stats websites, but was not able to find a conclusive answer.
Also found a ClassicPress Usage Report but that one is from 2021. Since then no official update?
Guido
@MattyRob that is something I am interested in too (so that I can brag about it in The ClassicPress Series).
Is it really that not possible to set up a way to have even a rough idea??
I think there may be some API stats collection on the server but @Simone can probably give a better idea than me.
Thanks for replying.
Do you know why these numbers aren’t published anymore after 2021?
I want to contribute for the long term (with the Dutch translation for example), but for me it should be worth the effort. That’s the honest reason for asking 
Guido
Based on a report from “BuiltWith.com”, there an estimated 1,189 websites currently running ClassicPress.
*** It’s possible there are more, but this should give you an idea ***
Not really. The stats for BuiltWidth are not even close - always well below actual installs. Look at WordPress and Drupal as an example…
You may be right, when looking at WP I see very different numbers online: 30+, 500+, 800+. But we can safely say CP has between 1 and 5 thousand active installs. Was hoping it was a bit more popular, after so many years.
Guido
We have ~2200 active installations, ~30% of these are using ClassicPress version 1.
PHP most used versions are 7.4, 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3.
Starting with WP drama, the number, which was stable before, is steadily growing.
These statistics do not include more than 6000 spam sites traceable to the same owner.
Wow. So little!
Hello everybody! I just found out about this right now from the Bricks Builder facebook group.
When the WP drama started I searched online for alternatives but Google didn’t show me ClassicPress … so bad …
Now that I found out a better WP is here and in amazing condition as far as I can tell, I’ll certenly give it a try and migrate my sites to it!
Wow. I’m amazed I didn’t find this earlier.
Congrats to the devs for this amazing work. If it works as good I hope it will for my agency I’d be recommending it to everybody!
Thanks for the stats!
I’m curious to know if the CP board has set a target regarding the minimal number of sites before a certain date. Or something similar. They’ve set up a professional platform, and are doing great things, but it should be worth the effort at some point in time, right?
My unofficial 2 cents…
I think the current situation with WP is helpful in getting the word out about CP; however, the team at CP has been concentrating on developing the product, verses trying to market something before it is ‘ready’. There is also the time and funding factors, I would rather see effort in product development instead of promoting the product which results in taking away from development. There is also not really a budget to have marketing done, so the slower path of word of mouth marketing has been used.
With respect to your question about setting a user goal. What purpose would that serve? If it is not reached we would give up? Everyone understands your point about getting on board as a developer being ‘worth it’, but growth is one developer or user at a time, with the hopes that at some point it will snowball and pick up pace faster and faster. Of course if everyone either writes it off as not being worth it or has some other excuse not to become part of the community, that won’t happen (nearly as quickly).
I think @Guido07111975 is trying to understand if CP is here to stay.
The answer is a big fat yes. We stay and we commit in developing the product rather than spending the money donors have kindly gifted to sustain the project in marketing.
Marketing is done organically (social media, blog posts, word of mouth, adopting CP for our clients, talking about it, advocating both online and in person).
Now, let’s talk about how stunning it is that against a real giant like WP (spending a LOT OF MONEY in marketing everyday) we reached that growth and we are still growing. Let’s talk about the fact we promised at the start that we were here to stay, and to make CP something stable, secure and reliable for creatives of all kinds.
Yes WP is big, but doing our thing we have as a community being able to erode on it.
Small steps and steady growth, one day at the time, are better than big numbers in one single strike.
When launching a product you have an expectation and you’re setting goals to reach. I heard about CP a couple of years ago, it was mentioned in multiple posts at the WPTavern website. I was expecting that the user base of CP increased a lot in the meantime. And yes, since it doesn’t have a very large user base, I did have doubts about how long this will last. But you and @ElisabettaCarrara have convinced me that CP is here to stay 
To be clear, I do like CP a lot!
Correct!
But you and @EliteStarServices have convinced me!
Hopefully this thread will give clarity to other users with similar questions.
The reason for my statement was more that the team here is working to create something they can use and be proud of. Setting an arbitrary goal is great for an investor meeting, but the community here is not focused on that number.
I was in the same place you are at one time, but am not missing WP, and only have 1 site left, which I use to test plugins running the WP beta plugin.
CP might not be a match for everyone, but a lot of people are probably ‘sitting on the fence’ and should at least try it out on a test site.
I work on ClassicPress because I use it for my own sites. And, this semester, I’ll be using it to teach with too. So there will be a bit of marketing there!
WP limited the initial impetus for people to move to CP by keeping the Classic Editor plugin around for much longer than they initially said they would.
Now one question is how many WP users are so committed to blocks that moving to CP would be hard for them. Those who aren’t can come to CP fairly painlessly. But those who are have major uncertainty looming.
For example, another question is if someone chooses to fork CP with blocks, who is going to work on their block editor. Because even its biggest advocates say it’s only half done.
Forking WP in its current state is actually much harder now than when we did it.
I think you hit the nail on the head. It still has millions of installs. Partly because people prefer a page builder over blocks, but I’m pretty certain many people also prefer using the TinyMCE editor. Most of them will stay with WP, until it’s removed… time will tell.
Forking WP in its current state is actually much harder now than when we did it.
You mean v6.2 compared to v6.6? Why?
It’s harder partly because the block editor has expanded into many more places, and partly because we could compare 6.2 with CP v1 to see which changes we wanted to keep.
Someone forking now has either to include a half-baked block editor or else work out from scratch how to eliminate it from core files. Or they could use CP as a base, of course, but then why not just use CP?
Understood, thanks Tim.
What/which LMS are you using with CP CMS?