What are some of the most important open source plugins in the pre-Gutenberg WP ecosystem? I want to try to keep them compatible with the CP Next version I am working on

It’s also important to have logging plugins that work with CP. Stream is currently the most user-friendly one that’s compatible with CP.

There isn’t an email logging plugin that both works with CP and doesn’t have a broken feature, so I’m working on building that myself. (Actually, all working except for the fact that I haven’t decided how to handle attachments.)

REST API Log is important too for people, like me, who use the REST API a lot.

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SEO is very important. CP has Classic SEO, which works and is based on RankMath plugin. But it hasn’t received any attention in a while.

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Another thing that can be improved in core that I use a plugin for is better password hashing. I use bcrypt to hash passwords. That’s a good option. But depending on the min PHP version you plan to support, there may be others too.

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Some WP plugins I consider indispensable:

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Yes, that’s a good shout.

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agreed

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I added all of those. Working perfect except for two things:

  • I had to remove is_trackback() function call from statify and slim SEO. This doesn’t affect the plugin, it just ignores Pingbacks (which I completely removed anyway).
  • Slim SEO uses a function that wasn’t defined on WP 4.9 (id est. CP). It’s wp_get_environment_type() and it was introduced in WP 5.5.0. But yeah it’s a very simple function that can either be replaced or backported (because it’s a useful function).

I fixed the problem, will keep those plugins active.

I dislike the fact that Shortcodes Ultimate states:

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Why would we want to use plugins that add useless bloat to CP?

Gutenberg-ready means: “Yo waddup, each time you load a page I’m gonna load some code in case Gutenberg is there. Because maybe and only maybe, you need it, ain’t that fun!?”.

Again → this defends this idea.

Conclusion: the breaking changes i’m introducing are not breaking anything other than forcing subtle changes. No way is possible other than moving away from WP once for all, if CP wants to make sense. I’ll keep adding and testing plugins you like, if you like. And making the small required changes for those plugins to work too.

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I doubt @anon98749105 wants the plugin because it’s block-ready. Shortcodes were an integral part of building a WP website, and still is an integral part of CP since CP doesn’t have blocks. They offer a lot of features that users can utilize without coding.

Why would we want to use plugins that add useless bloat to CP?

When it’s necessary. Or when there’s no other choice. Actually, I personally use only a few of the available shortcodes, but other people may want to use more, and so it’s best to focus on a single “all-in-one” shortcodes plugin. As Viktor said, shortcodes is still an integral part of a CP site.

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You both misunderstood my words. Shortcodes are fine, great actually.

The question is: Why would we use plugins that add useless bloat to CP?

Where useless bloat means: being block ready.

He of course doesn’t want the plugin because it’s block ready. He wants it because of its original purpose: shortcodes.

But again and as always, WordPress is introducing all that stuff, which eventually will be breaking stuff (just like what happened with slim SEO).

Which again and as always leads to the same than always always always: CP doesn’t make sense if it doesn’t cut from WP.

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Just to add one more thing related to shortcodes. I don’t know how you feel about shortcodes, but there was work being done on an improved shortcode parser on WP side:

There’s a petition for that:

Something to consider.

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My sites in development are a few minor versions behind the latest version of Slim SEO, but I was sure the plugin developers have committed to support ClassicPress.

Please don’t ever touch Classic SEO! This is one of the wonders of CP. The only plugin that really does all the necessary basics. A masterpiece!

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Featured Image by URL
I don’t know if this is an open source plugin but it is very useful for my site.
A similar supplement also popular has already stepped into Gutenberg.
For an addition like this, I had written a petition to be part of the core of ClassicPress, there was a debate here about it but it didn’t seem to have fallen on fertile ground.
This add-on is still on WP until version 4.0 and has not been updated for a year.
I’m afraid that this add-on won’t become part of Gutenberg in the next update, or worse, that it will run out of time or simply disappear.
Without that add-on, my gaming page will become useless.
And the plugin is useful for all those who have hosting with less storage and photos as in my case are very important and take up storage space

The problem with this is that it opens up a potential CORS security issue. (It wouldn’t if it was just being used as a means of importing the image, but that’s not what you’re asking for.) So this is not a good candidate to be part of core.

It’s better left as a plugin specifically for those who want this feature. And there’s no problem with forking that plugin. Any plugin listed on wordpress.org is open source.

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Exactly. But I also have to add that the initial scope of this post was not to look for “Core Plugins”. Actually, some of us and myself included are confusing the concept of “Core Plugin”. A Core Plugin isn’t something we ADD, but instead something we TAKE AWAY from Core and provide it as a plugin. So this can’t be called a Core Plugin because it has never been in Core in the first place. If anything at all, it should be called a potential CP Native plugin (a forked and adapted version for ClassicPress).

The scope of this post was to get feedback on real plugins being used by real ClassicPress users, with the idea that I (or anyone interested!) activate them in the ClassicPress Next version that is currently being developed (by me, but not a “one man show”, anyone can/should/is-encouraged-to jump in!) for the sake of keeping them working while breaking changes are being introduced.

So far, all the listed plugins on this post are working fine with MINOR ISSUES that get fixed in less time than it takes to criticize what is being done (without providing alternatives…).

So I will fork the Featured Image by URL WordPress plugin for you and keep it working with the Next version.

For the antiprogress feed-backers, please find a solution to this before posting utopic nevergonnahappen ideas.

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Thank you for asking.

I nominate Next-Gen Gallery’s OSS fork, Nextcellent Gallery.

This plugin has a troubled and tangled history through several companies, but is very useful for organising (which is where the stock WP Media fails) posting (more options than the stock Media) images. For me, it makes WP possible to use as a media presentation platform.

In particular, it uses Galleries, which are folders of images and posts single images, whole Galleries or Albums, which are collections of Galleries, I tried the latter but but do not use, it would be useful for putting a lot of images on one page or post.

The useful part is that I can post a related group of images in a post or a single one very quickly, and I can use a Gallery to save the single images in one place by year, so tracking down an image is easy by looking at the link.

Also, when Google, etc. decide to reach into the cookie jar, NG allows me to change the path in its control panel, so I can alter the top folder name by one letter and do likewise in NG and my photos are safe from being plundered by bots.

Google has a habit, and now automattic also does, of supplying free thumbnails of my work to people hotlinking it from my site. The ability to easily change the path to all my work undermines that.

IIRC, Nextcellent was a student project and abandoned. Some features of the current Next-Gen fail to work for me and it is missing features as the current group drive to monetise it.

UPDATE, the current version of the commercial Nextgen Gallery does not work on CP.

had some issues, but the basic useful parts worked fine and better than any of the commercial versions.

UPDATE; Nextcellent works on CP with PHP 7.4.28, so far it shows a failure on image upload but the image actually does upload and is usable and can be added to a post.

Twere it me, Nextcellent would be included in the stock install as an alternative to WP’s Media. At the time it was developed it had a decent following and brought a lot of long-time users along.

Do you have any serious long-form content bloggers here? There are things that are important to us:

  • Table of Contents plugin (most use Easy Table of Contents in WP)

  • Ability to paste a video URL in and have the video appear full screen (plugin or code)

  • Broken link checker - the plugin is problematic so maybe an online version can be used as a replacement

  • Anti-spambot plugin. A developer created one and named it after my site (GrowMap anti-spambot plugin aka G.A.S.P.) It was brilliant because it blocked spam so you could see your real comments. That developer had serious health issues. The relative who took over CommentLuv did not release a free version of G.A.S.P. but the functionality still exists in CommentLuv Premium plugin (built before Gutenberg existed). [Akismet is a joke and totally worthless because it lets all the spam in while putting your real commenters in with the thousands of spam comments.]

  • Comments are an important part of building a community so various comment functions have been used. I was a huge fan of CommentLuv Premium and may test to see if it will work in Classic Press as it is old enough to probably work.

Of the above, the ability to deal with 1000s of spam comments a day without touching them is the most important.

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